
The order of your returns matters more than the average.
Two retirees can earn the identical average return over the same years and still end up in completely different places. What separates them is when the bad years land, not how bad they are.
Hosted by Joshua Mangoubi, CFAFounder, Considerate Capital
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It's two in the morning, and the spreadsheet still says yes.
The savings are there. The plan holds. You've even circled a date on the calendar.
And still, some night around two in the morning, a different thought shows up.
What if the market falls apart the very year I finally stop working?
Not in some far-off decade you can shrug off. Right at the start. When the paycheck has just gone quiet, and the whole balance is suddenly all you've got.
I'm Josh Mangoubi, and this is A Considerate Retirement.
And here's what I want you to hear today. That worry is sharper than it looks — and it's pointed at exactly the right year.
Let's follow one couple through it. Call them Nora and Frank.
They're hypothetical, not real clients. I'm inventing them so we can watch this risk play out.
They're both sixty-three. And they're trying to decide whether that date on the calendar is really safe.
Over thirty years, the average matters.
But in retirement, the order can matter even more.
Especially in your first decade out.
You can't pick that order. What you may not know yet is how much you can do about how much it's allowed to matter.
So let me show you the thing itself, with Nora and Frank in the room.
Picture two versions of their retirement.
Same year they retire. Same savings. Same investments. Same everything.
And over thirty years, both versions earn the exact same average return — the average growth they earn on their money over time.
In the first version, the early years are kind. The rough patch comes late, once they've built a cushion. They reach the end with money to spare.
In the second version, the rough patch comes first. Right at the start, in the years they've just begun living off the money. And they run short at eighty-five.
Same returns. Same average. Opposite endings.
The only thing that changed was where the bad years landed.
Planners call this sequence-of-returns risk. It is a mouthful.
In plain English, it means the order of your returns can hurt you, not just their size.
And the reason it bites is something you can actually feel.
When the market falls, and you're also selling investments to pay for your life, you turn a loss on the screen into a real one.
The shares you sell near the bottom? They're gone. They're not there to bounce back when the market recovers.
That hurts most in your first years out.
The balance is still large.
Each withdrawal is a bigger bite of a smaller pie.
And the damage can follow you for years.
The same drop, met twenty years later, after good years have built you a cushion? Barely leaves a mark.
Now here's the part that catches people off guard. And it's the reason this risk hid from you for forty years.
While you were working and saving — buying and holding, never pulling a dollar out — the order of your returns didn't matter at all.
Truly. Shuffle the good years and the bad years into any order you like. If you're not taking money out, you land in exactly the same place.
That's not a theory. That's just arithmetic. Multiply the same numbers in a different order, you get the same answer.
The order wakes up only the moment money starts moving out.
So for your whole working life, this thing sat quiet. You never had a reason to think about it.
Then you retire. You start withdrawing. And it flips.
Suddenly a bad year early does lasting damage. And a good year early builds a cushion that protects everything after.
You spent decades in a world where the order barely mattered. Retirement drops you into a world where it might matter more than the average.
And nobody hands you the new rules on the way out the door.
So here's the shift, and it's a strange one. The crash you should plan for isn't the one deep in retirement, when the balance is small. It's the one that meets you on the way in.
Let's put a face on this, back with Nora and Frank.
Say they've saved a million and a half. They plan to draw sixty thousand a year from it, on top of Social Security later.
Now, if they retire into a few kind years first, that sixty thousand comes out of a portfolio — their invested savings — that's growing underneath them. They barely feel it. By the time a bad stretch arrives, they've got room.
But run the tape the other way.
Say the market drops hard their first two years. Now they're pulling that same sixty thousand out of savings that are already down. Every withdrawal is a bigger bite of a smaller number. And the shares they sell to cover it never come back for the recovery.
Same average over thirty years. Wildly different life.
And here's where the money stops being about the money.
Because the thing that gets cut, when a bad start isn't planned for, is rarely a line on a spreadsheet.
It's the lake house they wanted to buy so the grandkids would have somewhere to come every July. It's the big trip Frank kept promising Nora — the one that keeps sliding one more year down the calendar.
It's the quiet morning, five years in, when they realize the income they built the whole retirement around is just… smaller now. And likely to stay that way.
That's the real stakes. Not the portfolio. The Tuesdays. The Julys. The promises.
Here's the human point. A rough start you've planned for is a scare. A rough start you haven't is a setback that reshapes the whole thing.
So what do you actually do about it?
Let's start with the hardest part, because it's also freeing.
You cannot control the order. Nobody can tell you whether the decade you retire into will be generous or unkind. And anyone who claims they can is guessing with your money.
But — and this is the good news, and it's real — the order isn't the part you have to manage.
What you manage is how exposed you are to it.
Here's the picture I keep coming back to.
Think of an old oak on a windy hill. It doesn't get to choose the weather. Some years the wind howls.
What grows over years, quietly, is the root system.
The wind still comes. But a deep-rooted tree doesn't get told by the wind what it does today. It just stands there and lets the storm be a storm.
That's the whole game. You're not trying to stop the wind. You're trying to be rooted enough that a bad year can't reach in and force your hand.
Three habits do most of that work. And they all do the same one thing — they put time between you and any need to sell at the wrong moment.
The first is a buffer.
Keeping a few years of spending — often somewhere around one to three years' worth — in cash and short-term, high-quality bonds.
So when the market drops, it doesn't reach into your stocks at the worst possible moment. You live off the buffer. You give the stock side time to heal. You refill in better years.
It's the difference between watching a down market with your coffee — and watching it while doing math on what you have to sell this week.
The second is flexibility.
A plan that spends the exact same amount no matter what is brittle. It snaps.
A plan where you can trim a little after a bad year — hold off on the kitchen remodel, take the closer trip just this once — that plan bends. And bending gives the portfolio room to recover.
And honestly, the trims are rarely painful. Mostly it's the difference between a want this year and the same want a year later.
The third is an income floor.
When Social Security and any pension cover the basics — the groceries, the property tax, the lights — a bad early decade becomes an annoyance instead of a threat.
Because then the market is paying for extras. Not groceries, property tax, and the lights.
Now — none of this means everyone's equally exposed. And you may be less exposed than you fear.
If guaranteed income already covers your essentials, or you're pulling only a small slice from your savings each year, a rough opening decade is uncomfortable, not dangerous.
The households most at risk are the ones pulling a big share of their spending from the portfolio in those first years, with little room to cut.
The closer that is to you, the more these habits are worth setting up before you retire. Not after.
So here's the takeaway. You don't build these to predict the market. You build them so you never have to.
Your Considerate Step this week is this.
Ask yourself one question, and write down the honest number.
If you have not retired yet, use your first planned year. If you're already retired, use your first year.
How much of your spending has to come out of your investments, after Social Security and any pension?
Not the balance. Not the average return. That one slice.
Because that number, more than any other, tells you how much a bad first decade is actually allowed to matter to you.
You don't need to fix anything with it. Just find it, and look at it.
Let me leave you back with Nora and Frank.
Picture them a few years in now, in the version where they got rooted before the wind came. The market has a bad stretch — because markets do.
And Frank reads about it, and pours the coffee, and they still take the July trip. Because the money for the trip was never coming from the part of the portfolio that just fell.
That's the whole idea today. You don't get to choose the decade you retire into. You only choose how much that decade gets to boss you around.
At a considerate retirement dot com, you can also find the sibling episode, What Your Bonds Are Actually For, which answers the question from today: what job should that one-to-three-year buffer be doing?
And if you'd like to look at your own number — the slice of spending that leans on the portfolio in those first years — we're glad to talk it through, whenever you are ready, and at your pace. No July trip has to be decided in one conversation.
One quick, important note.
I'm the founder of Considerate Capital, a registered investment adviser, and this show is educational and general — not personal financial, tax, or legal advice, and not a recommendation for your situation.
Anyone I describe, Nora and Frank included, is a hypothetical composite, not a real client.
And nothing here is a promise of results.
For advice about your own life, talk with a professional who knows the details.
I'm Josh Mangoubi.
Until next time, go find that one number — the slice — and just let yourself look at it.
The order of your returns matters more than the average.
Prefer to read? This episode was adapted from the essay.

Joshua Mangoubi, CFA
Founder and Chief Investment Officer of Considerate Capital, a fee-only fiduciary. Each episode takes one real retirement question and turns it into a useful, unhurried conversation.
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